談跑鞋…

miller

跑鞋，大大話話都著過廿幾三十對…
先講下自己身型﹕178cm；138lb
而家o既練習o既量好低，多o既都係40km / week左右，少o既唔多過10km / week
以前唔識跑，一對鞋走天涯，跑十幾k係佢，去track跑又係佢，比賽又係佢，跑到對鞋見底先買過對…
而家傷得多，練得聰明左，開始識得咩時間著咩鞋，練d乜，我o既訓練大概可以分為以下幾類﹕

(i) 長課 - 其實我o既長課一d都唔長，長極都係15km，因為無乜耐性…
(ii) tempo run - 一般都係6km至14km，用比賽速度80% - 90%左右…
(iii) interval (track) - o向track做o既interval有幾個組合，每節由200m 至 1,000m不等
(iv) interval (road) - o向單車徑都可以做interval，一般都係1km至2km一節

鞋就有以下o既牌子﹕
NB 901: 一路都好少著NB鞋跑，由於一d原因所以唔使錢都可以試過呢對鞋，外型似係一對快鞋，比較薄同輕…經試跑後個感覺唔錯，比賽就唔岩我喇，不過跑tempo都唔錯，試過用tempo pacing跑15km都好好感覺…
NIKE: 坊間好多人話NIKE鞋唔好跑，其實呢個係錯覺，如果佢地出o既bowerman series係一個非常唔錯o既系列，不過最大問題係佢地主要用zoom air，一d較重o既跑手可能會覺得保護唔夠，不過我就岩岩好…而家著緊o既係 Katana Cage III，對鞋o既反應同保護平衡得好好…Katana Star 同 Katana Racer 而家都做緊特價，有d興趣想試下…
Adidas: Adizero係亞洲人款，岩d體型較輕o既人，款唔多，勝左顏色選擇多，主力model有adizero pro, adizero RC, adizero LT…另外其他歐洲款就著重保護…我著過o既model有adizero LT, adizero RC, RC就係比賽鞋，我都覺得保護唔夠，長過10km唔好諗…LT就唔差，相比Katana Cage III, 反應較好，當然保護就差少少，我用黎跑track 多…
由於時間關係，下次再寫其他牌子…

blurmax

Miller,

Thx for the detailed analyse.  Looking forward to seeing ur analyse on Mizuno & Asics later

hate4876

其實我都睇中左Adizero 系列~
不過就唔清楚 adizero pro 同 adizero LT 有咩大分別??
C hing 可唔可以話一話比小弟知??

miller

專業用詞我都唔多識講…不過簡單黎講就係LT比pro個後踭(heel)有較強保護，如果你體重唔係太輕(140lb or above)又或者你落地o個下個heel strike係重o既，LT一定會比較適合你…至於鞋o既抓著力唔會差太遠…

vita375

pro 價錢貴過 LT

miller

各個跑手o既取向唔同，睇下邊款會比較適合你，價錢只可以作為一個參考。
正如我點都唔明點解Asics Kayano點可以賣成1,400﹙佢對我黎講只係一對慢跑鞋，但係o向歐美大把人覺得佢好正，貴一貴都肯買一樣﹚

blurmax

NB 901: 一路都好少著NB鞋跑，由於一d原因所以唔使錢都可以試過呢對鞋，外型似係一對快鞋，比較薄同輕…經試跑後個感覺唔錯，比賽就唔岩我喇，不過跑tempo都唔錯，試過用tempo pacing跑15km都好好感覺…

X 2 - I use it for racing and feel fine.

lvrunner

原帖由 miller 於 2008-4-15 18:10 發表

                               
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正如我點都唔明點解Asics Kayano點可以賣成1,400﹙佢對我黎講只係一對慢跑鞋，但係o向歐美大把人覺得佢好正，貴一貴都肯買一樣﹚

Miller兄,

I have been wearing Asics shoes for over 20 years now, at least 100 plus pairs.  My feet are little overpronated and need to wear stability shoes.  Asics is the most comfortable of all.  I had the Kayano 11, 12, 13 and now 14.  I only bought them when they were onsale.  None of them cost me over $100US each.  You are right, it is one of the MOST popular running shoes in North America.  I am also wearing a pair of the new Asics Gel 3000 (birthday gift), two pairs of 2120 and 1 pair of 2130 (Christmas gift).  I usually go through 3 pairs of runners each year.  I buy the old model of the GT 21X0 in December when the new model comes out.  Usually it is 40 to 50% off.  The only one I think is not worth to buy is the Gel Kinsei ($150US).  

Edit: Oh, also want to let you know that my friend ran all his sub 3:30 marathons with the Kayanos.  As a matter of fact, he wore it at last Novmeber's New York City marathon and qualified for Boston in his age group and he is wearing it next Monday in Boston again.  So I disagree with you that Kayano is a "slow" shoe.  You are right, to you it is.  Please also take into consideration that the body frame differerences between Asian runners and North American runners.  An XL shirt in HK might become only a medium in North America.  That was the case for me when I was in Honolulu trying out an Asian-fit XXL Nike tech shirt, it was so tight and I wear size M or L here.

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miller

今次先講Mizuno，一開始認真跑都係由美記開始，著得最多o既係Wave Spacer，大大話話都應該著過5對，中國製同日本製都試過…呢款鞋我主要用黎跑track interval，road tempo，日本版就主要用黎比賽﹙長過10km，或者多斜路o既賽事﹚
另外一對著得比較多o既model就係Wave Curise, 佢o既曰本版同中國版我都有試過…我最初﹙約00, 01年﹚買o既中國版wave curise都好好，比賽同訓練都好正，反應好過 spacer，但係保護就差少少…日本版就唔使多講…10km平路比賽一流﹙好似係135g﹚，應該都玩到200km到…但係我04年買左對wave curise中國版，呢對係我有史以黎著過最差o既跑鞋，我o既comment係同一對白飯魚無分別！﹙之後佢06年出番o既version又正常番，可能有太多人complain過﹚
至於另外一d唔錯o既model就有 Sub-Three﹙跑十幾k都好舒服﹚、Wave Wing CN ﹙主要貪佢顏色夠sharp﹚
其他試過又覺得一般o既model有﹕Ultraspacer﹙保護okay，不過覺得個底對我黎講硬左d﹚、Lightscud﹙反應差、但舒服、跑唔快﹚、Wave Rider﹙第一對買o既long run鞋，而家耐唔耐都仲著緊，保護一流，不過睇黎我真係唔適合著呢d咁厚o既鞋，次次都跑得幾辛苦﹚

blurmax

Wave Rider﹙第一對買o既long run鞋，而家耐唔耐都仲著緊，保護一流，不過睇黎我真係唔適合著呢d咁厚o既鞋，次次都跑得幾辛苦﹚

X 2 - espcially the slow response which is not suitable to race

miller

原帖由 lvrunner 於 2008-4-16 11:12 發表

                               
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Miller兄,

I have been wearing Asics shoes for over 20 years now, at least 100 plus pairs.  My feet are little overpronated and need to wear stability shoes.  Asics is the most comfortable of al ...

Hi lvrunner,

So what I inteneded to write this article is to share my own experience only (all by trial & error), especially for some brands they are not familar with, this is absolutely right that different runners may have different needs regarding their own physical conditions, running style and performance level.

I also want to point out that we should wear suitable runner shoes for different purposes, in order to maximize the efficiency of your training as well as prevent injury.  This is the common misconception for many new runners that one good running shoes could serve all purpose, what he/she needs to do is only to put on the shoes, get out the door and run. Just wish the can build up a correct concept to prevent injury.

terryisrunner

原帖由 miller 於 2008-4-16 11:45 發表

                               
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今次先講Mizuno，一開始認真跑都係由美記開始，著得最多o既係Wave Spacer，大大話話都應該著過5對，中國製同日本製都試過…呢款鞋我主要用黎跑track interval，road tempo，日

請問你比賽用乜鞋為主?半馬留下我會用Nike,三個字、平、靚、正.正價唔需$700,試過跑季尾買平過350-
Wave Spacer日本製有一對但唔舍得用.其實呢二對有乜分別我真係唔太知.Sub3試過唔夠快!練習用Wave Rider,係會慢D但可以著好耐同避震強!

miller

比賽我有時唔同距離用唔同鞋﹕
10km或更短﹕ Mizuno Wave Wing CN (中國製), Asics Hyrite (日本製), Mizuno Wave Curise (日本製)
10km至半馬﹕Mizuno Wave Wing CN, Asics Skysensor (日本製)

Sub-3係一對好好o既練習鞋，如果比賽的話我會嫌佢後踭太厚…
NIKE Katana Racer 係一對好鞋，唯一唔好處就係佢都係得一款比賽鞋俾你選擇…

洛虎添

請問你地點睇 Nike ZoomAirStructure Triax+ 11

我平時練跑都係著佢ga...

跑街就 Nike AirMax 360

blurmax

Anyone has tried Adidas Microbunce before?
Any comment?

                               
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http://sports.mysinablog.com/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=763793

terryisrunner

原帖由 大隻添跑手 於 2008-4-17 20:24 發表

                               
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請問你地點睇 Nike ZoomAirStructure Triax+ 11

我平時練跑都係著佢ga...

跑街就 Nike AirMax 360

我覺得Mizuno or Asics 好D!Nike在香港比較少正宗跑步鞋,多數行街跑步兩用(bowerman series除外).