2010 渣打馬拉松暫定日子

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2010年2月28日 (正月十五, 元宵)

佐治男孩

原帖由 spmho 於 2009-8-13 15:30 發表

                               
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though offical finish time is 5hr 30min....
if someone cannot manage to reach several check points before specific time, offical will set up net, runners will be pushed to bus.

also, even runn ...

It seems to me more and more that the so called HK Standard Chartered Marathon is more and more like the Bay to Breaker race in San Francisco.  It is more like a fair with a small number of real runners.  

Another possible reason why I think they start the Marathon at 8 is that they want to let our HKSAR CEO to participate in the opening ceremony.  And they dare not asking him to do it at 5am.  If that is true, it is a very dumb idea.  Risking runners' lives to have the governor starting the race is really stupid.

If they start the full at 6am, they could definitely give a few more hours for people to run/walk the full marathon.

spmho

原帖由 佐治男孩 於 2009-8-11 23:09 發表

                               
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Surprising.  What you mentioned are the things most people take it for granted.  All races here have those things.  I am surprised that the HKSCM doesn't.  I guess I should change my plan and run Shanghai in 2011 then.

I just want to add that I think many of the ching's ctse's who ran HKSCM last couple of years could probaby be capable of running 5 or more minutes faster if the start time is at 6am or earlier.

though offical finish time is 5hr 30min....
if someone cannot manage to reach several check points before specific time, offical will set up net, runners will be pushed to bus.

also, even runners can pass the last net....
if they finish more than 5:30:00, even 5:30:01, no offical result will be offered.

佐治男孩

原帖由 Left3 於 2009-8-11 22:28 發表

                               
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Yes, no finisher medal or t-shirt, I would think that is logistically easiest:

1. Check the past five year the percentage of finishers among all entries to make medals and t-shirt
2. line up a bun ...

Surprising.  What you mentioned are the things most people take it for granted.  All races here have those things.  I am surprised that the HKSCM doesn't.  I guess I should change my plan and run Shanghai in 2011 then.

I just want to add that I think many of the ching's ctse's who ran HKSCM last couple of years could probaby be capable of running 5 or more minutes faster if the start time is at 6am or earlier.

[ 本帖最後由 佐治男孩 於 2009-8-12 02:48 編輯 ]

Left3

Yes, no finisher medal or t-shirt, I would think that is logistically easiest:

1. Check the past five year the percentage of finishers among all entries to make medals and t-shirt
2. line up a bunch of volunteers like scout on the finishing line
3. handout medal and t-shirts to those that cross the line
4. for those who fainted when crossing the line (like me ), can use the chip time to certify the finishing time and collect it later.

Don't you think this is a no brainer???

If they cannot do this, I will petition a bunch of kindergarten students to sit on the organizing committee!!

Let's see what will happen this year!

佐治男孩

原帖由 Left3 於 2009-8-11 18:44 發表

                               
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spmho ching,
I think the petition did address race time, baggage collection, course arrangement (not on the highway!!) etc. Anyway, I totally understand the effort will need a strong voice so that i ...

It is great to hear that our fellow HK runners have already voiced the suggestions.  I hope the organizer will listen.

But it is very strange to have no finisher medal.   I hope they will make the changes before 2011.

Left3

spmho ching,
I think the petition did address race time, baggage collection, course arrangement (not on the highway!!) etc. Anyway, I totally understand the effort will need a strong voice so that it can be heard, that is why I don't have much hope on it.

Again I just want my finisher medal and t-shirt, a very humble request to award my hardwork

spmho

原帖由 Left3 於 2009-8-11 13:56 發表

                               
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In case you did not know...

There was a petition signed by over 300 runners back in March this year. There were a number of issues raised, one of them is the starting time. I don't know much detail, but I heard the organizer has received the letter and looking forward to make some changes.

I run the first 10K in 1997. It was quite a well organized event, but of course there were much less people participated back then. The problem now is that SCM has become such as carnival and festival with so many people, yet the organizers did not make signifcant changes to response to new demand, serious and casual runners alike.

Many simple effort can really improve the race and runner's enthusiam, for example, how about a finisher medal and a finisher T-shirt??? at least we can all brag about it in the office, rather than the same looking design year after year.......  

well enough of my complaint, but I hope they will response to our petition.

Left3 ching
i appreicated the action done by hkrunners in that action.
the petition actually addressed some minor issue. e.g toilet arrangement, water station arrangement.....

however, major issues such as race course, event time....can never be honored
unless someone who know running in authority.

Left3

George and other C-hings

In case you did not know...

There was a petition signed by over 300 runners back in March this year. There were a number of issues raised, one of them is the starting time. I don't know much detail, but I heard the organizer has received the letter and looking forward to make some changes.

I run the first 10K in 1997. It was quite a well organized event, but of course there were much less people participated back then. The problem now is that SCM has become such as carnival and festival with so many people, yet the organizers did not make signifcant changes to response to new demand, serious and casual runners alike.

Many simple effort can really improve the race and runner's enthusiam, for example, how about a finisher medal and a finisher T-shirt??? at least we can all brag about it in the office, rather than the same looking design year after year.......  

well enough of my complaint, but I hope they will response to our petition.

佐治男孩

原帖由 spmho 於 2009-8-11 10:49 發表

                               
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george...don't expect hk organizer with same thinking with runner.

though the event was called 'international'
consider the course, event time, race atmosphere.....was actually not 'internatio ...

I guess you are right.  Many of us recreational runners here in US are spoiled because we expect a lot from the race organizers who themselves are all serious runners at one time.  So, the welfare and health of the runners is always the priority.  Organizers go out of their way here to ensure runners have the best possible environment to run a good and relative comfortable race.  That includes starting the Honolulu race at 5, the CIM at 7 in winter in the dark (BTW, it was so much fun to run in almost total darkness in under 4 Celsius last Dec there).  The LA race who succumbed to the religious people and moved to a Mon (instead of Sun) in May this year (the only good Mon holiday) got thousands of complaints from the runners.  It will be back to a Sun in the spring next year when the weather will be cool and the start time again will be 6 or 7am.

I was hoping that the HKSCM organizer will be in the same caliber but that apparently is too much to ask for.  I really want to run HKSCM in 2011 but am very concerned with the heat.  I may be forced to change my plan.

[ 本帖最後由 佐治男孩 於 2009-8-11 13:08 編輯 ]

spmho

原帖由 佐治男孩 於 2009-8-11 03:11 發表

                               
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lvrunner, I hear you.  When I watched the cable TV recordings on the HKSCM, I thought I didn't see it right the 1st time.  I re-watched the recordings and confirmed that the Marathon started at 8  ...

george...don't expect hk organizer with same thinking with runner.

though the event was called 'international'
consider the course, event time, race atmosphere.....was actually not 'international' at all...

organizer always claimed that SCM was getting more people to join (due to overwhelming participants in 10k)

spmho

原帖由 lvrunner 於 2009-8-11 03:02 發表

                               
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George ~ Honolulu Marathon start time is 5am.  I have to get up at 2am every year.  Wait in line at the shuttle stop by 3:45am.  Tough!!!!!  I think the RD for the HK marathon should change all the  ...

lv
SCM is so speical that 10k participants were much more than full marathon
only less than 5000 people in full marathon while more that 10000 in 10k

佐治男孩

原帖由 lvrunner 於 2009-8-11 03:02 發表

                               
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George ~ Honolulu Marathon start time is 5am.  I have to get up at 2am every year.  Wait in line at the shuttle stop by 3:45am.  Tough!!!!!  I think the RD for the HK marathon should change all the  ...

lvrunner, I hear you.  When I watched the cable TV recordings on the HKSCM, I thought I didn't see it right the 1st time.  I re-watched the recordings and confirmed that the Marathon started at 8 while the 10k started at about 6.  That's the most ridiculous race schedule (for a large race) I have ever seen for sure.  The other puzzling schedules I have seen are small community races like the ones organized by the Taiwanese and Mainland immigrants here.  Both have the distance races in the hottest time of the day and the shorter sprints earlier in the day when it is not that hot.  That's really puzzling to me as well.

[ 本帖最後由 佐治男孩 於 2009-8-11 03:23 編輯 ]

lvrunner

原帖由 佐治男孩 於 2009-8-9 16:48 發表

                               
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絕對是搞手有問題.

全馬應該五點半開跑.半馬可以七點.10k可以八點.

在熱帶地方都是這樣的.夏威夷的全馬也是五點半開跑的

George ~ Honolulu Marathon start time is 5am.  I have to get up at 2am every year.  Wait in line at the shuttle stop by 3:45am.  Tough!!!!!  I think the RD for the HK marathon should change all the start times.  How could a marathon start after a 10K run.  No brainer !!!

Saki hing ~  Both Honolulu Marathon and Tokyo Marthon have their 10K start with the marathon at the same time.  Both half and full marathons at the Las Vegas Marathon end at the same finish line.  I don't see any confusion at all.

佐治男孩

原帖由 saki 於 2009-8-10 10:21 發表

                               
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不可行吧

因同一時間會有太多人到達終點, 會做成阻塞兼混亂.........

saki兄,很多人到終點並不是理由.第一,10k的終點可以在另外一個地方.剩下的全馬跟半馬選手最多大概兩万人.兩万人的比賽不算大.波士頓有兩万6千人人報名,跑完的都有兩万三,四千.芝加哥有四万多人跑完.紐約也有三到四万人.連在舊金山的一個12k都有差不多三万人過終點,全都沒有混亂.

因爲搞手不懂安排而弄至跑手極度辛苦,甚至有過熱而出現危險,是不當的.

saki

原帖由 佐治男孩 於 2009-8-10 08:48 發表

                               
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絕對是搞手有問題.

全馬應該五點半開跑.半馬可以七點.10k可以八點.

在熱帶地方都是這樣的.夏威夷的全馬也是五點半開跑的

不可行吧

因同一時間會有太多人到達終點, 會做成阻塞兼混亂.........

佐治男孩

原帖由 tomde 於 2009-8-9 19:05 發表

                               
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我都想知點解全馬唔早點起跑,今年見D跑手都跑得好辛苦!!

絕對是搞手有問題.

全馬應該五點半開跑.半馬可以七點.10k可以八點.

在熱帶地方都是這樣的.夏威夷的全馬也是五點半開跑的

tomde

我都想知點解全馬唔早點起跑,今年見D跑手都跑得好辛苦!!

vmhk

原來年初一係2月14情人節.....

佐治男孩

原帖由 佐治男孩 於 2009-7-15 00:33 發表

                               
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好日子啊.

八點開跑,太晚了.

半馬和10k都六/7點開跑,點解全馬這麽晚.太陽都出,想熱死人.