全馬的訓練

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Hi Oscar hing.  If you are still in Toronto, you can get it from all these stores.  I know they don't carry it in any of the Running Rooms.  Try it yourself, Hammer gels are not as sweet as other gels.  I love the Espresso favour.

Chain Reaction Cycle
4231 Dundas St. W.
(416) 234-5300

Cyclepath Bloor
1204 Bloor St. W.
(416) 533-4481

La Bicicletta
1180 Castlefield Ave.
(416) 762-2679

La Carrera
195 Harbord St
(416) 538-1203

Racer Sportif
2214 Bloor St W
(416) 769-5731

Sport Swap
2045 Yonge St
(416) 481-0249

Wheels on Bloor
2007B Bloor Street W.
(416) 762-7119

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原帖由 oscar 於 2008-8-17 21:00 發表

                               
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多謝大衛兄咁有心幫小弟搵埋地址，如果我早啲知道，都或者會去睇吓，但係我聽日就要去溫哥華，睇黎都係無時間！可惜！

No problem Oscar hing, you can get it in Honcouver too! I mean.........Vancouver.

Hammer Gel

Wow, you can go visit PNE (Pacific National Exhibition) with your family while in Vancouver.

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Sicily

其實一般講o既里數包唔包括熱身慢跑ga?

desmond

原帖由 lvrunner 於 2008-8-16 13:00 發表

                               
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yungwai hing,

Hammer gel uses complex cabohydrates as sugar, other gels like Power gel, Clif Shot, GU.......etc use simple sugar as carbohydrates.  It is the complex sugar that fuel the body to  ...

thank you lvrunner c-hing, i tried to look for hammer gel in Hk but cant find it. By the way, if we are running after 30K and we have used up most of our glycogen storage in the liver (hit the wall), is it better for we to get simple sugar which is ready for instant conversion of energy or complex sugar which requires further breaking down into simple sugar before being utilized.

lvrunner

原帖由 yungwai 於 2008-8-18 07:22 發表

                               
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......is it better for we to get simple sugar which is ready for instant conversion of energy or complex sugar which requires further breaking down into simple sugar before being utilized.

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Hi yungwai hing,

Definitely, we call it "glycogen debt".  It is always a good idea to carry a couple of glucose tabs (simple sugar) when doing LSD or marathon.  This is also why carbo-loading is very important the night before LSD or marathon.  

In hospital when a patient is being wheeled into the Emergency Room with low blood sugar (hypoglycemic), we always do 靜脈注射 by giving them 50% dextrose water in order to bring up their sugar level instantly.

BTW, I don't think you can find those Hammer gel in HK, I've looked at their website, it is being sold in Singapore and Malaysia though.

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desmond

原帖由 lvrunner 於 2008-8-19 02:20 發表

                               
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Hi yungwai hing,

Definitely, we call it "glycogen debt".  It is always a good idea to carry a couple of glucose tabs (simple sugar) when doing LSD or marathon.  This is also why carbo-loading i ...

Thank you lvrunner c-hing, maybe the hammer gel will be sold later in HK. looking forward to it.

Alfred

原帖由 yungwai 於 19/8/2008 11:53 發表

                               
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Thank you lvrunner c-hing, maybe the hammer gel will be sold later in HK. looking forward to it.

It's better our web site to be the dealer

kopo1128

原帖由 lvrunner 於 2008-8-13 10:24 發表

                               
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Hi kopo hing, The guy that qualified for Boston using the FIRST program is 43 years old, his latest marathon time was 3:17.  He lives in Rochester, New York, tons of snow in winter time and he doesn ...

I have done my LSD run for 30km on last Saturday. It started the running at 6:30am and finished at 10:00am.  I supposed to run 35km but due to the hot weather, I quited at 30km. Overall, I am feeling ok with the 30km run and I can have another 1hr swimming on Sunday.  The only problem that I have is the hot weather and the cushining effect of my shoes is not good and I started to feel pain at the bottom of my feet after around 25km running.  I think I must buy a pair of new shoes for LSD with better shock absorption.  But one interesting thing is that I feel painful at the bottom of my feet last time when I just finished 15km running but this time it started at 25km.  If there is more training, will this pain cease? Also, I have brought with myself some candies with glucose. I took some when I felt tired. It works but whether it is common to take glucose candies during running.  I thought it is easier to bring candies with me than the bags of power-gel.

ching ctse, any opinion??

lvrunner

原帖由 kopo1128 於 2008-8-22 00:13 發表

                               
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I have done my LSD run for 30km on last Saturday. It started the running at 6:30am and finished at 10:00am.  I supposed to run 35km but due to the hot weather, I quited at 30km. Overall, I am feeling ok with the 30km run and I can have another 1hr swimming on Sunday.  The only problem that I have is the hot weather and the cushining effect of my shoes is not good and I started to feel pain at the bottom of my feet after around 25km running.  I think I must buy a pair of new shoes for LSD with better shock absorption.  But one interesting thing is that I feel painful at the bottom of my feet last time when I just finished 15km running but this time it started at 25km.  If there is more training, will this pain cease? Also, I have brought with myself some candies with glucose. I took some when I felt tired. It works but whether it is common to take glucose candies during running.  I thought it is easier to bring candies with me than the bags of power-gel.

Hi kopo hing,

Congrats on your long run!  You know back in the old days before power bars were even invented, we all used candies or fig bars as fuel.  Nowadays, glucose (monosaccharides or simple sugar) is mostly used for emergency purpose only, it is not recommended to take it regularly during LSD.  Why?  Because of the tendency of runners getting what we called SUGAR CRASH.  That is when your body is out of glucose and all of a sudden a rush of glucose goes inside your blood stream causing the brain to trigger a signal to the pancrea to release a bunch of insulin to neutralize those glucose at a speed causing most of the glucose inside the blood to disappear fast. The end result will be more tiring (especially during running) and drowsy.  So instead of giving you more energy, it is the opposite around.  If you don't like carrying gels, how about those Cliff Shot Bloks or Sport beans?  Have you tried any of them?  

Also, you may want to try to switch to another pair of better shock absorption shoes and see if it helps.  Good luck!  



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力

原帖由 lvrunner 於 2008-8-13 04:45 發表

                               
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各位師兄/師姐,

此 FIRST training program 是北美洲一個極之popular嘅program, target to runners that don't want to run so many days.  If you are really interested about it.  I strongly suggest y ...

I'd searhed public library, CWB & TST Page One bookstore, some of the Commerical Press bookstore, ...... but the result is negative . Any C-hings saw this book in HK?

kopo1128

原帖由 瘋狂跑步機 於 2008-8-25 13:39 發表

                               
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小弟想從十月開始LSD訓練, 請問每次跑完用咩方法令腳底冇咁疲勞, 暫時只想到用冰水滲腳, 但要滲幾耐呢?

我用安美露, 好似得得0地. 不過, LSD後的腳底真的很累和很"冤"痛. 但冰敷的感覺又不好.

kopo1128

原帖由 lvrunner 於 2008-8-24 06:01 發表

                               
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Hi kopo hing,

Congrats on your long run!  You know back in the old days before power bars were even invented, we all used candies or fig bars as fuel.  Nowadays, glucose (monosaccharides or simpl ...

LV Ching, I didn't realize taking glucose candies has such terrible consequence.   I have also brought along with me some energy bar.  However, I found it is difficult to take during running.  Powergel is good but it is quite sizable and I wonder the Powergel may also contain simple sugar and whether it will cause fatal problem if we take this gel improperly.

力

原帖由 kopo1128 於 2008-8-25 15:06 發表

                               
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LV Ching, I didn't realize taking glucose candies has such terrible consequence.   I have also brought along with me some energy bar.  However, I found it is difficult to take during running ...

Fatal problems

kopo1128

原帖由 Alex 於 2008-8-25 15:39 發表

                               
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Fatal problems

To describe as Fatal problem is a bit serious but it is in fact not a joke.  The sudden drop of glucose level in blood can lead to many problems.  I tried one time some years ago.  During the football game, I lose conscious and fell down.  When I woke up, I lost my memory.  The doctor thought I got a stroke but later he found out the glucose level is too low because I ate too less for weight-loss.  The doctor said it is very dangerous if the glucose level is too low.  This is the reason why I described as fatal problem.

力

One of the C-hing told me that ate too much energy gel during long run will cause you lose conscious too. I dunno is it same as SUGAR CRASH. In my opinion, preload with carbo stuff (rice, pasta, ...) before marathon is more safe. But in order to solve the "Hit the wall" issue, take 1 to 2 pack of gels after certain distance and runners should solve the rest by his/her mind. Your comments.

lvrunner

原帖由 Alex 於 2008-8-25 01:22 發表

                               
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One of the C-hing told me that ate too much energy gel during long run will cause you lose conscious too. I dunno is it same as SUGAR CRASH. In my opinion, preload with carbo stuff (rice, pasta, ...)  ...

Alex hing,

Eat too much gel will cause electrolytes overload, that indeed is fatal!!!  

力

原帖由 lvrunner 於 2008-8-26 12:38 發表

                               
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Alex hing,

Eat too much gel will cause electrolytes overload, that indeed is fatal!!!   

FATAL